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By L awrence Ferber
photo by The Weinstein Company
In his cheeky new film The Matador, Pierce Brosnan tweaks
his sauve image. Our interview with the heartthrob and writer/director
Richard Shepard will leave you both shaken and stirred.
Pierce Brosnan needs little introduction. The Irish-born
actor's smolderingly handsome looks and dashing manner helped
land him the titular role of TV's Remington Steele, turns
in The Thomas Crown Affair, The Mirror Has Two Faces, Robinson
Crusoe, The Long Good Friday (as a gay-baiting IRA assassin),
and, of course, the plum role of James Bond in a handful
of films and video games between 1995-2004. Yet what does
require a little introduction and explanation is Brosnan's
latest appearance in The Matador, playing a sort of distorted
-- and queered-up -- mirror image of Bond.
Brosnan plays Julian Noble, a burned-out, gone-to-pot,
debauched and sexually ambiguous hitman. One night in a Mexico
City bar he chums up to Danny (Greg Kinnear), a tense businessman
in town for a make-it-or-break-it deal, During their conversation
Julian remarks that two things taste better in Mexico: "Margaritas
and cock." Not in the market for a gay affair -- his
wife Bean (Hope Davis) is anxiously awaiting news at home
-- Danny is aghast, but a strange camaraderie develops between
the men, and they end up helping each other out in very unexpected
ways.
Written and directed by Richard Shepard, The Matador was
produced by Brosnan's (and partner Beau St. Clair's) Irish
DreamTime productions. During the Toronto Film Festival,
I had the opportunity to sit down with Brosnan and Shepard.
Brosnan, taller than I expected, sported a silvery beard
and a cheeky sense of humor and sassy bite: this Bond fires
back. In the sexually ambiguous spirit of the film, and that
cheekiness, he even held hands with Shepard during our discussion
of The Matador, Mexican cocks, and whether Bond would sleep
with a guy to accomplish a mission.
Let's get this out of the way: Is Julian bisexual?
Richard Shepard: We think he's a try-sexual. He'll try
[fucking] anything in front of him. It was so important in
the beginning when Pierce came on board [that he agreed to
play it that way]. I was like, "Very early in the movie
there's this 'margaritas and cock' line and either we're
gonna do this or we're not doing the movie." Ultimately,
I want everyone to think Julian is a try-sexual and will
sleep with anything because it adds to the tension of the
movie all the way through. If you think that Julian and Danny
might have had something maybe in secret in Mexico... And
Pierce was like "No problem, I want to." I get
the idea that this script, this story and this character
interested Pierce because he wanted to stretch. He was just
looking for the opportunity to walk through a hotel lobby
in his underwear.
Pierce Brosnan: It's as simple as that. I've been an actor
for many, many years and to have a jewel like this come across
the table and to have your own company and make your own
choices ... that would never have happened if I sat at home
waiting for the phone to ring.
So do the cocks taste better in Mexico?
PB: I wouldn't know. No cocks. I say the line, let it fall
out of my mouth.
RS: Great question! There are many people on the crew [who
might know] -- we can take a poll.
During the first few minutes of the movie, after waking
up with a prostitute, Julian spots her bottle of nail polish
and paints his own nails. Was that polish your shade, Pierce?
PB: Sure it was my shade. Love it. Want to see my toes
now? I'm wearing it.
Pierce, would you have liked to see a gay twist to the Bond
character while you played him? Logically, you think Bond
would have had to sleep with a guy at some point to achieve
a mission, right?
PB: I don't know, buddy. [Bond creator] Ian Fleming put
it down in a kind of rough perverse way, and they diluted
[the character] a long time ago.
Would Bond sleep with a guy to get the info?
PB: Um. Possibly.
Really good info?
PB: (Resigned) Sure.
Richard, what made Pierce your ideal choice for Julian
and what did he bring to the role?
PB: My cock.
Good answer.
RS: The casting is all about the couch.
PB: It is. Should we hold hands now? Come on, sweetheart.
Really. (They hold hands)
RS: This whole movie rests on the actors because it's not
a movie with car chases and everything like that. Pierce
is really the perfect person to play this role because I
was looking for a really good actor to do something different.
You have the fun of not only the character of Julian, but
also the fun of seeing an actor who people like stretch and
pull it off. And Pierce got it, got what this character needed
to do and understood the decadence of everything in his life.
The debauched nature of him from beginning to end.
PB: Little did you know. I've been sitting in the wings
a long time.

Julian is constantly frazzling Danny. Did you enjoy making
Greg Kinnear uncomfortable?
PB: Sure. Greg is such a standup guy about the whole thing.
Julian is a very flamboyant character and if he wasn't as
up on his game as he always is I would've had nowhere to
go.
RS: Greg was so great in helping the comedy. If Greg weren't
there to look at Pierce's performance in the movie it wouldn't
have been as funny. Greg is our eyes. Very grounded in a
way, many of the biggest laughs are Greg looking at Pierce
after he says [something shocking].
PB: With a lesser actor I would have been dead in the water
and looked like a prick.
You also had a gay moment or two, with Woody Harrelson,
in the film After The Sunset.
RS: If it's got him in bed with another man it's automatically
on his desk.
Of course, you've tackled gay material and been involved
with gays in the industry for many years, Pierce. Any memorable
experiences during your early acting days?
PB: I was at a theater called the Glasgow Citizens Theatre
run by three guys who are wonderful and gay. Their company
was extremely outrageous -- everybody always wanted to be
in the company because of the theatricality of the performances
they would give, but few were chosen. They would do four-hour
productions of The White Devil and The Duchess of Malfi.
The boys would all be fagged-out and the girls would have
their tits out. The most magnificent shows.
Was there any fear when you did The Long Good Friday, your
first feature film role, that playing gay or sexually ambiguous
could hurt your career? Did anyone advise against it?
PB: At that point in your career you'll do anything, but
no. Nobody's ever said [anything against it]. I think The
Matador was the first time my agent got a bit squirrelly!
My wife got a bit squirrelly! So I think they all breathed
a sigh of relief it was as entertaining as it was.
I look forward to where you go from here. Do you think you'll
get lots of offers to play degenerates now?
PB: Probably.
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